That happened in Episode 109, and it’s been one of the most popular episodes to date.
With the release of the paperback version of his book, we were asked to bring him back on, and I gladly accepted as I knew there was much more wisdom we could all learn from someone doing this work for nearly 40 years.
This time we met on his private jet as he was about to take off from LA. My good friend Nick Onken, one of the world’s top lifestyle photographers, came along to take all of the photos you see on this post as well.