EP. 766

03/04/19

Barbara Corcoran

You canโ€™t fake it.

Success in Business and Life

What does it take to be successful in business?

You can read a million books, attend every seminar and conference, and have the best LinkedIn profile in the world, but none of that will guarantee you success. Those things can be helpful, but the best business people have something a little extra. So whatโ€™s the special sauce you need to make a good business great?

My guest today is the perfect person to shed some light on this subject.

Youโ€™ve probably heard of Barbara Cocoran. If youโ€™re in the real estate game, you know her as one of the top real estate agents in New York. And if youโ€™re not in real estate, youโ€™re probably still aware of Barbara from her regular appearances on ABCโ€™s Shark Tank. Sheโ€™s one of the most successful and highly-respected businesswomen in the world, and her media appearances and speaking engagements are always highly informative.

But of course, you guys know I like to take my guests out of their usual playbooks. Thatโ€™s why Barbara and I go deep about subjects she doesnโ€™t usually talk about. We talk about relationships and why the people you surround yourself with can make or break your business. We also talk about how we can all reframe our mistakes to avoid regret and keep accomplishing great things.

And for all you entrepreneurs out there โ€” with her personal brand of directness and wit, Barbara shares with me some of her best business advice about finding the right career, the right investment partners, and the right resources to spend your money on.

โ€œGet rid of the clunkers and make sure you surround yourself with people who know how to laugh. People with a sense of humor bring a whole bag of delicious things with them. โ€ฆ If you could just qualify [that new friends] have a sense of humor โ€ฆ you wind up with a lot of good people in your life, and you wind up โ€” as a result of that โ€” with a great life. โ€ฆ Whatโ€™s more important in life than [who] you surround yourself with?โ€ – Barbara Corcoran

Whether youโ€™re in the business sphere or not, this interview is gold. Barbara is full of wonderful advice that has the potential to help us all thrive in life. Letโ€™s get started!

Who Is Barbara Corcoran?

Today, Barbara Corcoran is an incredibly successful businesswoman, investor, speaker consultant, and TV personality. But she did not start out that way. In high school and college, Barbara made straight Dโ€™s. She had worked 20 jobs by the time she was 23 years old, and none of them felt like the right fit for her. But one day, while she was working as a waitress in New York City, she borrowed $1000 from a boyfriend and started a tiny New York City real estate company.

That company went on to become The Corcoran Group, a multi-billion dollar business. To this day, The Corcoran Group is one of the top real estate companies in the world, and theyโ€™re definitely the go-to people for luxury New York properties.

Once sheโ€™d built a top-tier real estate company, Barbara truly took the world stage. She wrote a book, Shark Tales, to tell the story of her insane rise to billionaire status and started speaking at events for the Harvard Business School, the New York Times, Business Insider, and Wells Fargo, just to name a few. Her motivating speeches and workshops have inspired thousands of people to become better businessmen and women. 

In addition to her speaking engagements at various corporate events, Barbara is a well-known TV personality. In her recurring role as one of the famous โ€œsharksโ€ on ABCโ€™s Shark Tank, she has invested in over 80 businesses. When Barbara sees a product and a personality she trusts, she doesnโ€™t hesitate to spend money on them, and dozens of clever entrepreneurs have benefitted as a result.

And to make things even better, Barbara is now an experienced podcast host. Her new show, Business Unusual, is a beneath-the-surface look at Barbaraโ€™s business savvy. She goes in-depth on her best business tips and strategies to help listeners grow their own businesses and thrive in todayโ€™s market.

But besides being a titan of industry and wealth, Barbara is just a delightful person to be around. Sheโ€™s funny and positive, and she never fails to say it like it is. I want to acknowledge her for being so kind and generous about sharing her wisdom with the world and with me here on the show. Now letโ€™s dive into our interview to see what truly makes a business work.

Find People Who Will Sign Up for Your Business

Hereโ€™s the thing โ€” as much as we like to think weโ€™re fully successful as individuals, our relationships have a massive effect on our business lives. This is true particularly of our most intimate relationships โ€” our partners can make or break our businesses, and vice versa, our businesses can make or break our relationships.

I wanted to ask Barbara about the kinds of relationships that facilitate successful businesses, and she had some interesting advice:

โ€œI think a lot of [relationships] go awry because it takes 150% effort to succeed in life in the workplace. If youโ€™re going to be hugely successful โ€” youโ€™re going to pour your heart and soul โ€ฆ into [your business] โ€” you better have a spouse who signed up for it.โ€ – Barbara Corcoran

Thatโ€™s so true. If you know you need to go all-in on your business โ€” and that will prevent you from giving enough time or energy to a relationship โ€” itโ€™s best to let the other person know before several years go by and there are greater emotional stakes at play. Barbara said relationships fail all the time because one partner is dedicated to their work, and the other partner did not sign up for that level of commitment to the business. I want to encourage you to carefully consider whether thereโ€™s room for a relationship in your life before trying to balance entrepreneurship and romance at the same time.

But if you know you can balance your work life and an intimate relationship, you want to find a partner who is willing to be a good life partner and a good business partner, too. And believe it or not, Barbara thinks that partners who work the best together are actually people with opposite personalities.

โ€œ… Some people intuitively choose people very smartly as to who should be their partner in business or in life, and I have found the most successful ones on both [sides] have been when you choose the opposites.โ€ – Barbara Corcoran

When youโ€™re looking for someone to share in an intimate relationship with you, donโ€™t look for a carbon copy of yourself. Chances are, people who are too similar will find too much conflict. But people who think differently and actually have some opposing traits tend to compliment each other, and their relationships work out better.

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Reframing Your Mistakes and Living Without Regret

After our discussion of relationships โ€” which is well outside Barbaraโ€™s comfort zone as a conversation topic โ€” we moved more into her wheelhouse with a discussion about regret.

Barbara has been successful for many years now, but that success has not come without failures along the way. Some of her mistakes have been very public too, and a lesser businesswoman would have gotten defeated. Not Barbara, though. She refuses to let regret get her down.

โ€œ… I donโ€™t see [failures] as a mistake because as [quickly] as you start thinking, โ€˜Oh, poor me,โ€™ you start to see the light of the door that is opening that couldnโ€™t have opened without it.โ€ – Barbara Corcoran

Has there ever been a time when you experienced failure in your business? Have you run into setbacks and had to take a step back and regroup? I want to encourage you today not to think of those setbacks or failures in a negative light. The truth is, your failures can be your biggest lessons, and they can create opportunities you would never have had otherwise.

The truth is, when you experience failure but choose to get back up and stop sitting in regret, you build your confidence. And as we all know โ€” confidence is key.

Barbara recently experienced a confidence-building failure of her own. She was a contestant on Dancing with the Stars, but she was eliminated after the very first week. Now Barbara knew that she wasnโ€™t the best dancer in the world, but still, she expected to make it a little longer than that.

โ€œIt takes a lot of courage to fail publicly, but I happen to be very good at public failure because Iโ€™ve done it my whole life, and that doesnโ€™t bother me. โ€ฆ Because what I learned [is] nobody is really watching or gives a shit because the truth is that most people are all thinking about themselves.โ€ – Barbara Corcoran

Itโ€™s true! Most people are way too preoccupied with their own concerns and how other people perceive them to be too worried about your mistakes. So when you fail, donโ€™t be afraid of it. Donโ€™t live with regret. Choose to learn whatever lesson your mistake could teach you and move on with your life. You wonโ€™t regret it!

Do What You Enjoy

Eventually, I had to ask Barbara for some of her best business advice โ€” I couldnโ€™t let such a major player in the business world leave the studio without sharing some good tips and tricks! Her first piece of advice? Do what you enjoy.

โ€œI think your head should be where you enjoy. So I think what you have to do is think, โ€˜What would suit me?โ€™ โ€ฆ It took me 20 jobs to find real estate, but the minute I was โ€ฆ opening the doors and chatting people up โ€ฆ I knew I was going to be the queen of New York real estate. โ€ฆ I think itโ€™s such wrong thinking that you have to choose your spot. โ€ฆ I think you find yourself little by little โ€ฆโ€ – Barbara Corcoran

Are there any aspiring entrepreneurs out there? Do any of you want to switch jobs? Think about what you love. Visualize yourself doing work you enjoy, and build a job or a business or an opportunity for yourself based on that.

Now, for entrepreneurs starting their own businesses, it can be a challenge to discern who you should invest in. I asked Barbara for the top things she looks for in an investment partner, and her advice was gold:

โ€œNumber one is salesmanship: I have never succeeded with any business where the principal didnโ€™t know how to sell. โ€ฆ The other thing I look for, and maybe this sounds weird to you โ€ฆ I look for anger in the individual. โ€ฆ anger and proving is very much part of a lot of successful stories out there โ€ฆโ€ Barbara Corcoran

Successful people like Barbara look for individuals with good sales techniques and something to prove. Where does your drive come from? What do you want to prove to the world? What fuels your motivation to continue hustling and building your business? Let that eagerness to grow and develop a bigger, better business show โ€” smart potential investors will be impressed!

Why You Should Listen to This Barbara Corcoran Podcast Episode Right Nowโ€ฆ

Barbara Corcoran is a sharp, wise businesswoman. This post barely scratched the surface of all the goodness she shared with me today, so itโ€™s worth listening to the full episode. I guarantee youโ€™ll learn something โ€” even if youโ€™re not interested in business!

Of course, to finish up an already fantastic conversation, I asked Barbara for her definition of greatness. Hereโ€™s what she said:

โ€œAlways really try everything in your power to just try harder to see it all work out whatever it is.โ€ – Barbara Corcoran

Thatโ€™s all there is to it, guys. Keep trying, keep striving for greatness, and eventually, it will all work out.

Thanks so much for joining me on this episode of The School of Greatness! If you loved this episode, share it on Instagram. While youโ€™re at it, tag Barbara, @barbaracorcoran, and me, @lewishowes, and let us know what your biggest takeaways from the episode were! 

And donโ€™t forget to check out Barbaraโ€™s podcast, Business Unusual. Barbara says to tell you guys that Iโ€™ll pay you each $10 if you go listen to it and leave her some feedback. (I unfortunately canโ€™t, but you should definitely go listen anyway!) The information in there is worth way more than $10, trust me!

If youโ€™re ready to learn how to find supportive relationships, embrace your mistakes, and build a successful business, donโ€™t miss Episode 766 with Barbara Corcoran!

 

To Greatness,

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Some Questions I Ask:

  • Whatโ€™s the angriest youโ€™ve ever been in your life? (11:00)
  • When did you learn to communicate so directly? (24:00)
  • Whatโ€™s the biggest lesson youโ€™ve learned from being one of ten kids? (26:30)
  • When do you feel the most loved? (30:00)
  • What are the smart industries to go into right now? (45:00)
  • What three questions would you ask a potential buyer? (1:02:00)

In this episode, you will learn:

    • What type of partnerships are the most successful  (19:00)
    • Why guilt is the worst thing for a relationship (23:00)
    • The importance of social media in business (40:00)
    • The two qualities Barbara looks for in an entrepreneur (49:00)
    • What makes Donald Trump a good salesman (57:00)
    • What to do with profit you make in your business (1:11:00)
    • Plus much more…

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