EP. 548

10/11/17

Esther Perel

“You learn about trust from studying betrayal.”

The Truth About Infidelity, Intimacy, and Love

Wow, I already know this is going to be another one of the most popular episodes on the podcast to date.

The first time the queen of relationships, Esther Perel, came on the podcast, she blew me away with her insights about love and intimacy. (A few hundred thousand downloads of that episode later and I know I’m not the only one).

So when she told me her new book was about infidelity and unpacking why people cheat (especially when it’s on the people they still love), I knew it was going to be a powerful conversation.

Esther spoke just last month at the second annual Summit of Greatness, and she was by far one of the most popular speakers. (People were booing me as I had to wrap up our Q&A because they wanted to hear more from her.)

She has an incredible ability to speak the truth in a way that cuts you to the core and also makes you feel safe to explore topics we usually don’t talk about.

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This topic is no different.

Cheating, being cheated on, and seeing a friend be hurt through infidelity are all some of the most painful experiences in life.

But what Esther has discovered, through her decades of experience as a psychotherapist who specializes in couples therapy, is that we often don’t cheat because we are looking for sex.

There are many layers to a satisfying, loving, committed relationship, and when couples are unwilling or unable to communicate about what they need in order to have that, they look elsewhere for it.

I learned so much in this interview, especially about how to be a better friend. I hope you share this episode with anyone in your life who has been affected by these issues. It’s a sensitive topic, but it’s so important to talk about.

Get ready to go deep into the matters of the heart in Episode 548.

Some Questions I Ask:

  • What’s the definition of infidelity? (2:35)
  • When should you define boundaries in a new relationship? (12:30)
  • How do you regain trust in a relationship when someone is hurt? (17:04)
  • Is the root of most divorces and breakups infidelity or something else? (25:40)
  • How important is physical touch and intimacy in a relationship? (30:45)
  • What’s the best advice to give to a friend who has been cheated on? (48:45)

In this episode, you will learn:

  • What affairs are really about (it’s not sex) (4:30)
  • Why we put so much pressure on our partners to be everything to us (7:33)
  • Why more women are having affairs now (9:20)
  • The difference between how men and women talk about sex (10:30)
  • The biggest killer of relationships (26:23)
  • Why men seek sex to find intimacy (33:05)
  • The difference between understanding something and justifying it (36:13)
  • What might be missing from you if you are unsatisfied in your relationship (39:50)
  • Why novelty is so good for relationships (42:30)
  • Plus much more…

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