EP. 751

01/28/19

Chris Hogan

THE AMERICAN DREAM IS NOT DEAD.

Become an Everyday Millionaire

We are conditioned to spend money. We think, โ€œIโ€™ll just get a credit card. Iโ€™ll just get a loan. Iโ€™ll just pay for it later.โ€ Advertisements tell us to spend, spend, spend. What if, instead, you became allergic to debt?

Iโ€™m lucky that my father taught me the importance of saving and investing. But I see so many of my friends spend all of their paychecks. So Iโ€™m excited to share with you todayโ€™s episode of The School of Greatness, where I talk about growing wealth with a personal finance expert: Chris Hogan.

Chris says that to grow money you need time and compound interest. He never buys anything that he canโ€™t pay for in cash. And he believes that being crystal clear on what youโ€™re trying to accomplish is crucial to your ability to persevere for your goals.

Get ready to learn how to build extraordinary wealth the slow and steady way โ€” this episode is going to teach you how to become an everyday millionaire. Letโ€™s get into it! 

Who Is Chris Hogan?

Chris Hogan is a best-selling author and Americaโ€™s leading voice on retirement, investing, and building wealth. His goal is to help as many people as possible avoid financial traps and set their families up for the future. For more than a decade Chris has served at Ramsey Solutions and spreads a message of hope to audiences across the country. 

Along with being a Ramsey Personality, and speaking at events across the country, Chris works with business leaders, professional athletes, and entertainers as a financial coach helping them set goals and navigate their financial futures.

Itโ€™s Chrisโ€™ mission to educate, encourage, and empower as many people as I can in leadership and money. His newest book, Every Day Millionaires, is so powerful. Its content is based on the largest study of net-worth millionaires ever conducted. He took all the data collected from ten thousand individuals and deconstructed what they did to become millionaires. Weโ€™re not talking about ten thousand CEOs of fortune 500 companies or lawyers with six-figure salaries. These are normal people with normal 9 to 5 jobs who became millionaires. Their stories and the steps they took to become millionaires are all written in this book so that you can do the same.

In todayโ€™s discussion, we covered the difference between being rich and building wealth, two common myths about millionaires, as well as the truth about debt and five things youโ€™ll want to start doing immediately if you want to become an everyday millionaire.  This episode is full of wisdom, and Iโ€™m so excited to share it with you. 

Two Myths About Everyday Millionaires

A lot of people making six figures have nothing in the bank because they spend it all and are constantly using credit. While, according to Chrisโ€™ research, some of the wealthiest people are some of the unlikeliest millionaires. 

MYTH ONE: โ€œThe truth is 79% of the millionaires that I talked to were first-generation wealth builders. They didnโ€™t come from anything. These are people that focused and built money overtime.โ€ – Chris Hogan

In other words, the millionaires Chris was talking to, were not โ€œtrust fund babiesโ€ โ€” no one handed them an easy life and comfy inheritance. They intentionally worked for their money and created wealth. The second myth Chris shared actually surprised me a little more:

MYTH TWO: โ€œ…a 3rd of the millionaires that we talked to never made six figures in a single working year. So let me tell you what the top 3 positions of the 10,000 millionaires were that we studied: 1) Engineers, not too surprising because they are good at planning. 2) Accountants, same thing, theyโ€™re good at accounting stuff. 3) Teachersโ€ฆ [typically considered] undervalued and underpaid. [Anyone else wondering] how teachers are doing this? Well, if you think about it, wealth building is a long term view not a quick hit. โ€ฆ These are people who built wealth over time, investing in their 401k. The goal of my book is to let others know that the American dream is not dead, itโ€™s alive and itโ€™s well, and itโ€™s available to those who take action.โ€ – Chris Hogan

Hereโ€™s the bottom line: You donโ€™t have to have a high paying job in order to become a millionaire. But you do need to know how to take care of your money (ie, budgeting, paying off debt, saving, and investing) and take consistent action for the long term. 

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Five Things Almost All โ€˜Everyday Millionairesโ€™ Have in Common

ONE: They are Allergic to Debt

You canโ€™t build wealth if you live on more than you make. Thatโ€™s where a lot of six-figure earners get tripped up. Theyโ€™re making what seems like a lot of money so they live extravagantly. Instead of having financial goals they tend to spend freely before long theyโ€™re racking up credit and building debt. 

 โ€œ…millionaires think differently. 94% of them live on what they make, that means if they are making a hundred thousand dollars, theyโ€™re living on seventy or eighty [thousand]. โ€ฆ 73% of these millionaires never carried a dime of credit card debt.โ€ – Chris Hogan

Everyday millionaires don’t carry debt. Even though most of these individuals are teachers, accountants, and engineers, they have become what Chris calls, allergic to debt. If you feel like you’re miles deep in debt wondering how you’re ever gonna get debt-free, much less never be in debt again, Chris has a solution! There are two perspectives you can adopt to become allergic to debt:

#1: Debt is a penalty for using someone elseโ€™s money.

โ€œThe interest you pay is a penalty. If I use someone elseโ€™s money they charge me as a penalty. Interest earned on my investments is a reward. So why choose to penalize yourself? Donโ€™t use debt to get yourself out of debt. Invest and grow your money to reward yourself.โ€ – Chris Hogan

#2: Debt is a limitation.

โ€œDebt keeps you hostage, itโ€™s a thief, it takes from you now, but also prevents you from investing and growing it later. โ€ฆ I look at debt as limiting me from doing what I want to do.โ€ – Chris Hogan

As long as you have debt, youโ€™re tied to making payments on it. While taking on debt may feel like freedom in the moment because it allows you to have something now that you donโ€™t have the money for in the moment, taking on debt makes you pay more and keeps you stuck long term. If you’re craving freedom right now, start saying โ€œnoโ€ to debt and make a plan to pay off any debt you currently have.

TWO: They Know What Theyโ€™re Trying to Accomplish

Hard things happen in life. We lose jobs. Loved ones get sick. Relationships end. In these moments, our goals are challenged, and weโ€™ll need to make a decision. Will we let this hard thing be our permission slip to buy a fancy car that requires us to take on debt? Or are we going to hold on to the reason we started pursuing our goal and keep making slow steady progress? 

Chris shared on the podcast how one of the hardest times in his life was when his youngest son, age 2, was diagnosed with a rare genetic disease that could kill him, take away his speech, ability to walk, and ability to eat.

โ€œ…sitting in that doctorโ€™s office holding my two year old boy and listening to that [was one of the scariest moments of my life]. โ€ฆ I think [in those moments] itโ€™s really important to understand what I am trying to accomplish. Like I donโ€™t want notoriety and I donโ€™t want to be famous. I want to be known for helping people think better. So staying rooted in that it helps me to be very clear on what Iโ€™m doing.โ€ – Chris Hogan

If you want to make it through hard times without giving up on your goals, you need to know what your ultimate goal is. An ultimate goal goes beyond a dollar sign or a specific date for retirement. An ultimate goal illuminates the core of who you are and expresses the legacy you want to live, and sometimes it takes suffering to bring that to light. 

Know what youโ€™re trying to accomplish so that when the going gets tough you have a clear reason to not give up. 

THREE: They Have โ€œTheseโ€ Four People in Their Life

Entrepreneur and motivational speaker Jim Rohn said, โ€œYou are an average of the five people you spend the most time with.โ€

Whether youโ€™re currently working through a hard time and you need someone to help you keep your head up, or you want to move toward your goals faster, the people you have in your life matter. Chris said we all need four people in our lives:

โ€œYou need a mentor. Thatโ€™s somebody who happens to have some success and can guide you. You need a coach who will push you because they will get on you, they will drive you. The goal is to get better. But you need two more [people in your life]. You need a cheerleader. Somebody that believes in you, who’s not worried about what you achieve, but just believes in you. That [person is] important to have. And you need a friend. Somebody who you can be real with, who you can just say whatโ€™s on your mind and [be confident that they will] not hold it against you. If you can get a mentor, a coach, a cheerleader, and a friend on your side, thatโ€™s awesome! But I want to encourage you to not only find those four; you need to be one of those four for someone else.โ€ – Chris Hogan

We all need a little encouragement sometimes. There are moments when we need someone to hold us accountable. Sometimes we need to ask someone for advice. And other times we just need to feel safe pouring our heart out. In those situations, itโ€™s gonna be a lot easier to take care of ourselves if weโ€™ve been intentional to connect with these four different people.

FOUR: They Choose to Have a Long Term View

When it comes to building wealth and creating a retirement for yourself, the saying, โ€œYou only live once,โ€ is going to hurt you more than it will help. For example, lottery winners get lots of money quickly but frequently lose their money quickly. They havenโ€™t learned the hard-won value of money to have fun in the moment, but also to provide for a fun life later. Because the everyday millionaires that Chris talked to understood that wealth building is a long term view they consistently set money aside to grow and be available to them at a later time. Hereโ€™s what Chris said the everyday millionaires did to build their wealth that you can start doing today:

โ€œTalking to these millionaires the number one thing they said that caused them to build wealth was employment retirement plans. … To grow money means you need time and compounded interest. The fact that youโ€™re putting money aside says that youโ€™re mature enough to know what you want later. And I think thatโ€™s the difference between adults and children. Children want what they want now. Adults have to be smart enough to [think], โ€˜Iโ€™m gonna be doing stuff, Iโ€™m gonna enjoy some stuff. But I know down the road Iโ€™m gonna want to do some stuff too.โ€™ So, I encourage people to set up automatic investing to your 401k, your 403B, or whatever it is. Make it happen automatically. Because, hereโ€™s the deal, your investments become your paychecks later. The reason youโ€™re investing is to replace your paycheck so you can go do what you want to do [someday without having to work]…โ€ – Chris Hogan

Whether you have a six-figure salary or are making ends meet as a teacher, cultivating a mindset that invests in the future is imperative if you want to become an everyday millionaire. 

FIVE: They Are Grateful

Adversity and hard work can change your perspective and motivate you in a way that being born with a silver spoon never could. According to Chrisโ€™ research, deep appreciation for what youโ€™ve been able to achieve is often a strong motivator for successful people.

โ€œThese millionaires are also givers. 70% of them set aside money to give away. I think thatโ€™s an important thing for people to understand. I want people to build wealth to be able to give to causes that they believe in. … Iโ€™ve got this phrase that I tell people, โ€œItโ€™s hard to be hateful when youโ€™re grateful.โ€ Thatโ€™s the spirit of gratitude and I think itโ€™s what drives people to do more and want to impact other peopleโ€™s lives.โ€ – Chris Hogan

I couldnโ€™t agree more. My hard-won success has inspired me to work even harder so that even more people can experience greatness in their lives. Itโ€™s not about me. Itโ€™s about how I can give back to the world. 

Why You Should Listen to the Chris Hogan Episode Right Now…

Dwayne Johnson said โ€œSuccess isnโ€™t always about greatness, itโ€™s about consistency. Consistent hard work leads to success and greatness will come.โ€ This is true in your finances, your health, your relationships, and your life. 

Chris Hoganโ€™s life is an example of whatโ€™s possible when you show up consistently and do the hard work. And todayโ€™s episode is loaded with practical wisdom that you can start applying today to become an everyday millionaire. 

His definition of greatness is consistent with the long term mindset heโ€™s cultivated:

โ€œYour legacy. Itโ€™s the impact you have on people. โ€ฆ [As an author, I hope] 100 years from now somebody pulls out my book and reads something that encourages them.โ€ – Chris Hogan

Be consistent. 

Do the hard work. 

Choose the long term view. 

As always, thank you for joining me today. If you enjoyed this interview and you want to connect more with Chris, you can find him on Facebook, Instagram, and His website. Donโ€™t forget to grab your own copy of his book, The Everyday Millionaire!

If youโ€™re ready to become an everyday millionaire, then join me on Episode 751 with Chris Hogan!

 

To Greatness,

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Some Questions I Ask:

  • How do millionaires think differently than non-millionaires? (14:00)
  • How do you manage emotional challenges so they donโ€™t affect your money? (16:00)
  • Whatโ€™s the difference between getting rich and building wealth? (30:00)
  • How do we get people to be allergic to debt? (36:00)
  • What type of education should people be looking for right now? (40:00)
  • Do you recommend people get a side hustle? (54:00)
  • Should you do a prenup when you get married? (58:00)

In this episode, you will learn:

    • How Chris started working with Dave Ramsey (9:00)
    • Two myths about millionaires (12:00)
    • Top three positions of the millionaires Chris studied (13:00)
    • The four people everyone needs in their life (14:00)
    • Chrisโ€™ thoughts on cryptocurrencies (26:00)
    • Why automatic investing is the best method for saving (40:00)
    • The four Dโ€™s to partnerships (56:00)
    • Plus much more…

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